4.0b20 initial thoughts

mgshoutman

[color=#000000][font=Helvetica]Just entered in beta mode[/font][/color]



[color=#000000][font=Helvetica]Some initial thoughts:[/font][/color]



- syncing 805 items took about 8-10 minutes

- identities do no show a photo

- Software Licenses don't show app icons (I have been asking for this for years) Where logins now looks so sexy, the SL section is so "dull".

- scrolling through 541 logins not fluent (I know this is a beta

- opening in-app browser is not smooth and laggy (iPhone 4S with iOS 6.0.1)

- no confirmation when quick password is set

- missing count of (master) password entry tries

MikeT

Hi there,



Thanks for the feedback!

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[*]Is this with Dropbox or with iCloud? Do you have a lot of file attachments in your data file? Was your Internet connection quick at the time of the sync? I synced over 2000 items last night and it was done in less than 5 minutes but I don't use a lot of file attachments, so the slowness may be because 1Password 4 is now downloading file attachments, where it didn't before.

[*]I assume you mean the custom photos you attached to Identity on top on the computer isn't showing up? This isn't supported yet. If you attach it as a file attachment on the bottom, it'll work. I filed this as a feature request for now.

[*]Software license icons will not be supportedyet in the first release, we hope to support it in a future update. We initially want to support it in Logins for now, see how it goes and then improve it for the rest. Logins are easier because we can retrieve it from the web sites, whereas application icons are not easily found

[*]Is it possible it's lagging because it's downloading the Rich icons for your Logins? Try disabling this feature and see if it'll stop it. Right now, we download the custom rich icon for each Login as you scroll to prevent freezing the app when everything is downloading at the same time. Once it is done downloading for all Logins, it should be quick. To disable this feature, please go to Settings > Advanced > Show Rich Icons.

[*]We're working on this but I'm not sure when we might improve this as this needs a lot of optimizations at the moment.

[*]This is gone for good, this hasn't been found useful for people and we've not planning to bring this back. We made a lot of security improvements in this version, there won't be any security reduction by not showing you the count or locking it out.

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Thanks again for the feedback, we'll keep improving and might change our mind on some of those changes depending on other feedback we get.

mgshoutman

Mike, yeah I am using Dropbox as my experience with other apps learned that it is more reliable than iCloud and for all: transparent <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



For me 1Password 4 is all about a new GUI experience and I therefore duly miss the [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Software license icons. With 207 Software licenses, scrolling becomes utterly dull. In that respect Wallet app (not being developed actively anymore) showed these and it was very nice.[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Now Logins became so sexy please give this a thought as users will love it in an instant [/font][/color]



[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]btw I got no reply on the missing confirmation for the quick password entry.[/font][/color]

MikeT

Hi,



I'm sorry for missing that, it'd be useful next time to use numbered list, so less chances of us missing something.



We do not plan to do the confirmation screen for the quick unlock code. There's no need since nothing bad happens if you forget it or did it incorrectly.



If it was entered incorrectly the first time when you unlock it in the app, the app will automatically reverts to the master password. If you think you may have entered the unlock code incorrectly, you can unlock with your master password, go straight to Settings to turn off the quick unlock code and turn it back to reset the code.



One more thing, we've released an update today with a performance fix for the scrolling, you can try now to turn on the Rich Icon support to see if the scrolling is much better now. Please let me know how it turns out.



Thanks!

jhollington

[quote name='MikeT' timestamp='1353374420' post='63297']Software license icons will not be supported yet in the first release, we hope to support it in a future update. We initially want to support it in Logins for now, see how it goes and then improve it for the rest. Logins are easier because we can retrieve it from the web sites, whereas application icons are not easily found.[/quote]

Can these not simply be synced from the desktop version of 1Password? Obviously not going to be an option for those who solely use the iOS version, but it seems that would be the easiest way to retrieve them.



Of course, if they're not already being stored in the 1Password keychain, I guess that would also require 1Password 4 on the Mac <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

MikeT

Hi,



That's the plan I believe since many people drag custom images for their applications in the desktop apps. But it'd also be easier to retrieve from a central location to save bandwidth for users that might want to have a slim data file without the images to transfer their custom data quickly between devices and worry about the images later or make it optional and not download anything at all.

mgshoutman

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One more thing, we've released an update today with a performance fix for the scrolling, you can try now to turn on the Rich Icon support to see if the scrolling is much better now. Please let me know how it turns out.



Thanks!

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the latest beta definitely seems faster <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

roustem

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Can these not simply be synced from the desktop version of 1Password? Obviously not going to be an option for those who solely use the iOS version, but it seems that would be the easiest way to retrieve them.



Of course, if they're not already being stored in the 1Password keychain, I guess that would also require 1Password 4 on the Mac <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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This will be tough because we don't want to put megabytes of images into iCloud storage. Plus, I often do not have an app installed on my Mac and the icon is missing because of that.



With version 4 we are setting up an image server that is using Amazon CloudFront for very fast and secure image delivery.

jhollington

Those damn Retina Displays <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



The centralized server approach does seem like a much cooler idea, though, and I expect will also help sync speeds of the actual data to remain fast. Since 1Password of course can't sync in the background, ensuring that any changes I may have made on my desktop get to my device as quickly as possible after opening the app when I'm on the go strikes me as being a more important feature than having pretty icons on everything anyway <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

MikeT

That's the principle of the way we're doing it right now, trimming the data file as much as we can to ensure quick sync.



There's also another factor involved, 1Password 4 now support file attachments, so why transfer redundant data if those icons are pretty much the same data for everybody who visits the same site.