Will beta updates be available after 4.0 release?

timowtz

Hey guys,



I just wanted to know, if we are able to test new version of 1P4 after the release candidat is available in the App Store. Can't wait to put my hands on the it <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



Best regards,

Timo

*Blacklight

I've read somewhere that the beta-program is to be continued. But no guarantee. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

timowtz

Ok, thanks for the quick answer.

face

I hope that too.

Btw: when 1P 4 will be ready for official release ?

It will be released both with 1P 4 for Mac ?

khad

We released a "teaser trailer" earlier today with the release date. Watch carefully and don't miss the credits. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



http://blog.agilebits.com/2012/12/11/coming-soon-to-an-app-store-near-you/



Nothing about the Mac version of me has been announced yet besides the free Mac v4 upgrade for MAS licenses. Please stay tuned. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



I don't have anything to report on betas after the release, but it is certainly a possibility. You all have been immensely helpful so far!

guid

Hi,

as tomorrow version 4 comes out, stop the beta here?

face

Please see this post:

http://forum.agilebits.com/index.php?/topic/11391-beta-updates-after-release-candidat/

guid

Thanks <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

MikeT

Hi guys,



The beta project will remain even if we released 1Password 4. We still have a lot of changes coming for 1Password 4 and will need your help in ensuring it's stable before we release it to the public.



Thanks!

TomS

So you didn't launch/release yet? <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

http://9to5mac.com/2012/12/12/new-version-4-of-1password-universal-starts-hitting-international-app-stores/



I think the question is valid, should we start buying the app, or continue in beta?

As in ... i'm only testing on one device, so buy for the others?

rapstone

I am also wondering, what should I do? Buy the new app or stay on the beta. I see the beta will end on 2013.11.07

jhollington

You can do both as the two apps maintain their own separate data sets -- even for iCloud sync -- and will happily co-exist on the same device.

khad

The beta app is beta software, so, as outlined when you signed up to test:



"You agree to be solely responsible for the safety and integrity of your data, including performing regular backups to guard against data loss."



While every effort is made to make the beta builds as reliable as possible, they are for testing purposes.



Please be sure you have a stable version of 1Password on your device as well — whether 1Password 3 or 1Password 4 — from the App Store in case you are unable to access your data in the beta builds for any reason, and please make sure you have backups. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

guid

Hi Khad,



version 4 is on my iphone. When I change application on the beta version is the original version are changed?

Both use the same file?

Both versions can coexist without problems?



thanks <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

khad

Stable and beta builds do not use the same local data store. Each app is separate. However, they sync just like two apps on two different devices would. If you want them to sync, just enable Dropbox syncing in both apps. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

jhollington

Actually, will iCloud syncing work between the beta and stable version? I was under the impression that the beta version still uses a separate iCloud data store (out of necessity based on how iOS developer releases work).

khad

You are correct. I just edit my post above to reflect that. I always have both enabled, but you are right. Only Dropbox syncing will work between the stable and beta builds.

guid

@jhollington @khad

thanks for the explanation, that's wat I wanted to know <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

MikeT

Hi guys,



Just to be clear, both the App Store and Beta apps are separate apps with their own IDs.



Apple uses these IDs to protect the app data from being interfered with by another app and it does this by matching the app's ID to a specific iCloud's [i]documents[/i] folder. iCloud syncs your app's data accordingly by its ID.



Each [i]documents[/i] folder is sandboxed from another app's [i]documents[/i] folder, so an app can't get into any folder it wants, it can only understand its own [i]documents[/i] folder as its root. It cannot leave this folder.



So, since there are two separate documents for two separate apps, iCloud cannot cross-sync the data into those two folders.



We can do this with Dropbox because Dropbox is designed to let any app see any data in your Dropbox folder as long as you authenticate the app first.