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kop48
kop48 Junior Member
So, I know I've asked this on Twitter, but is the Agile team looking to port 1P to WP7 in the future? I'm going to be looking for a new phone in the next couple of months, and the only thing holding me back is 1Password support. I know - high praise! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';-)' />

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  • Hi Kop48,



    That is high praise indeed <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />



    As you may know, our focus for mobile development has been on iOS and Android. Given our druthers, of course, we'd support every popular platform, but we just don't have the resources to do that. This doesn't mean we're shutting the door on the other mobile platforms out there, but (to keep expectations realistic) it does mean that iOS and Android is where active mobile development is currently taking place.



    Having said that, we try to never say never here at Agile Web Solutions, so while there are no plans for Windows Phone 7 support for 1Password right now, that doesn't mean there will never be such a solution, but we do need to use our fairly limited resources wisely.



    Thanks again for the kind words,











    [quote name='kop48' timestamp='1289956255' post='15291']

    So, I know I've asked this on Twitter, but is the Agile team looking to port 1P to WP7 in the future? I'm going to be looking for a new phone in the next couple of months, and the only thing holding me back is 1Password support. I know - high praise! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';-)' />

    [/quote]
  • kop48
    kop48 Junior Member
    Bugger! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />



    Now, the decision is whether to stay in Apple's walled garden, or go with Android... Hmmmm....
  • [quote name='kop48' timestamp='1289957783' post='15295']

    Bugger! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' />



    Now, the decision is whether to stay in Apple's walled garden, or go with Android... Hmmmm....

    [/quote]



    This is me speaking as a geek and not as a member of the AWS team, just to be clear:



    I personally prefer iOS, while Apple do have control over the App Store that's generally a good thing, it keeps crap out of the store, makes the whole process finding and purchasing of apps much easier and in general the apps seem to be of higher quality. Sure, Apple have made mistakes with the review process, but I genuinely believe they're improving the review process all the time, and speaking as a 'developer padawan' I'm impressed with how they work with developers when there's a problem.



    Now, I do have an Android phone for testing 1Password for Android, and there's lots to like, the refund process is better on the Marketplace, but at the same time there's lots of junk in the Marketplace and so many Android devices out there that it makes it hard for developers to provide a consistent experience across all devices.



    Either way, you'll still have 1Password, although of course the iOS version has been around a little bit longer so it has more features right now, but I know Gene is working incredibly hard to make 1Password for Android really kick some butt <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />



    Just my 2 pence <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />
  • kop48
    kop48 Junior Member
    [quote name='stu' timestamp='1289959316' post='15300']

    This is me speaking as a geek and not as a member of the AWS team, just to be clear:



    I personally prefer iOS, while Apple do have control over the App Store that's generally a good thing, it keeps crap out of the store, makes the whole process finding and purchasing of apps much easier and in general the apps seem to be of higher quality. Sure, Apple have made mistakes with the review process, but I genuinely believe they're improving the review process all the time, and speaking as a 'developer padawan' I'm impressed with how they work with developers when there's a problem.



    Now, I do have an Android phone for testing 1Password for Android, and there's lots to like, the refund process is better on the Marketplace, but at the same time there's lots of junk in the Marketplace and so many Android devices out there that it makes it hard for developers to provide a consistent experience across all devices.



    Either way, you'll still have 1Password, although of course the iOS version has been around a little bit longer so it has more features right now, but I know Gene is working incredibly hard to make 1Password for Android really kick some butt <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />



    Just my 2 pence <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />

    [/quote]





    Hmm now I have a dilemma where, if I want to get an iPhone 4, there'll be a new one released no more than 6 months after. Might be worth me buying it outright and selling it again when the new one comes out...
  • [quote name='kop48' timestamp='1289964323' post='15307']

    Hmm now I have a dilemma where, if I want to get an iPhone 4, there'll be a new one released no more than 6 months after. Might be worth me buying it outright and selling it again when the new one comes out...

    [/quote]



    That's the problem with technology, it moves so fast! That's exactly what I did though, bought an unlocked iPhone 4 so I could switch carriers when I need to (I'm in the UK, so I've got the option of quite a few, I chose T-Mobile in the end and haven't looked back since) and then sell the phone for a good price if the iPhone 5, or whatever it will be called, comes out if I feel it's worth the upgrade.



    I will say though, the iPhone 4 is a fantastic device, the retina display is just beautiful <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />
  • kop48
    kop48 Junior Member
    [quote name='stu' timestamp='1290024465' post='15338']

    That's the problem with technology, it moves so fast! That's exactly what I did though, bought an unlocked iPhone 4 so I could switch carriers when I need to (I'm in the UK, so I've got the option of quite a few, I chose T-Mobile in the end and haven't looked back since) and then sell the phone for a good price if the iPhone 5, or whatever it will be called, comes out if I feel it's worth the upgrade.



    I will say though, the iPhone 4 is a fantastic device, the retina display is just beautiful <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />

    [/quote]



    haha I know, I've borrowed my Dad's one while he's away. I do like it a lot!



    The issue I have is that in the US, the iPhone is only available (and will only function with any decent performance) on AT&T... <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_sadsmile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-(' />
  • [quote name='kop48' timestamp='1290031954' post='15345']

    haha I know, I've borrowed my Dad's one while he's away. I do like it a lot!



    The issue I have is that in the US, the iPhone is only available (and will only function with any decent performance) on AT&T... <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_sadsmile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-(' />

    [/quote]



    That's a major issue for a lot of people, I run a Mac podcast as well as working for Agile, so I hear all the rumours about the iPhone coming to Verizon, or more specifically CDMA. I'd say we'll see a iPhone on Verizon in the future, but not on CDMA, I'm thinking Apple will wait for the global rollout of LTE to happen, which is meant to be the 'one ring' to bind GSM and CDMA into a single, well spec'd and capable, standard so every network can leverage the same network strengths.
  • kop48
    kop48 Junior Member
    [quote name='stu' timestamp='1290032240' post='15348']

    That's a major issue for a lot of people, I run a Mac podcast as well as working for Agile, so I hear all the rumours about the iPhone coming to Verizon, or more specifically CDMA. I'd say we'll see a iPhone on Verizon in the future, but not on CDMA, I'm thinking Apple will wait for the global rollout of LTE to happen, which is meant to be the 'one ring' to bind GSM and CDMA into a single, well spec'd and capable, standard so every network can leverage the same network strengths.

    [/quote]



    Yup, I'm thinking I'll get an iOS device (iPod or iPad), and then get a WP7 phone. That way, I don't have to go on contract and I still have 1Password! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Also, gives me the flexibility to upgrade in the future.
  • I'm betting you could find an unlocked 3GS for a decent price. That way you can upgrade to whatever Apple releases in 2011 if you find it compelling. The iPhone 4 retina display is amazing, but if you haven't seen it it's easy to live without it -- especially if it's only a few months.



    I've used my friends 3GS for a bit, and it wasn't bad at all compared to my 4. I upgraded to an iPhone 4 from my beloved 3G this year, and believe me THAT was a treat. I really miss the way the 3G/3GS feels in the hand though. If I could find a case that mimics that I would be set.



    Since you're such a devoted 1Password user, I can only assume that security must be at the top of your list. Android is a powerful platform with some amazing features, but the marketplace is the wild west. That may be a concern.



    On the other hand, despite the fantastic user experience of the iPhone, AT&T really, really sucks. And I say this as a user in a very uncongested service area. If I were the sort of person who actually wanted to make calls with my phone, I would have to reevaluate.



    At the end of the day, it really just comes down to personal preference. While I am enticed by the flexibility of Android (customizability and carrier choice,) I value the ease of use and quality of the iOS app ecosystem above all else. Obviously, since making calls can be a real headache at times.



    I long for the day when I can replace it with an iPod touch. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • MemphisGeek
    MemphisGeek Junior Member
    [quote name='stu' timestamp='1289959316' post='15300']

    This is me speaking as a geek and not as a member of the AWS team, just to be clear:



    ...it keeps crap out of the store...

    [/quote]



    Like all the fart apps? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

    I have a Galaxy Tab, a i5 MBP and an Asus i5 based PC...AND a HTC HD7.

    All platforms have their ups and downs and one of the "downs" for Windows Phone 7 is no 1Password. Please consider it. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
  • [quote name='stu']

    This is me speaking as a geek and not as a member of the AWS team, just to be clear:



    ...it keeps crap out of the store...

    [/quote]



    [quote name='MemphisGeek']

    Like all the fart apps? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' />

    [/quote]



    Touché! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



    In all seriousness though, I think the "crap" he was referring to was the malicious and scam apps. A few slip in there from time to time, but for the most part people don't even waste their time and resources creating such things to submit simply because of the approval process.



    Sadly, there are also plenty of legitimate software developers that don't develop for iOS because of the approval process. It has become a bit less opaque these last few months, but on Android, for example, you just write the code and put it out there. There's no guarantee that it will even run.



    So, fart apps notwithstanding... <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



    Windows Phone 7, despite its unfortunate name, looks very promising. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1Password on there once it's clear it's a platform with some longevity. Only time -- and sales figures -- will tell.
  • I recently purchased the Focus and was hoping you guys would be supporting it.



    I remember the same was said for Android and then a week later, it was announced.



    Wish the same would happen here, but I'm very doubtful. Hopefully you guys support it soon.



    Works well on my nexus, iPhone 4, PC and mac, so I'm sure it would for a wp7 device as well.
  • RobYoder
    RobYoder Agile Customer Care
    edited January 2011
    [quote name='duvi' timestamp='1294203103' post='18513']

    I recently purchased the Focus and was hoping you guys would be supporting it.



    I remember the same was said for Android and then a week later, it was announced.



    Wish the same would happen here, but I'm very doubtful. Hopefully you guys support it soon.



    Works well on my nexus, iPhone 4, PC and mac, so I'm sure it would for a wp7 device as well.

    [/quote]



    Well, I can tell you that it won't be next week. That's not to say there never will be, though. It took us a while before we supported Android, too.



    Thanks for the feedback, duvi!



    Edit: Oh, and welcome to the forums!
  • khad
    khad Social Choreographer
    As Rob said, it wasn't "next week," but is the week after acceptable? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_bigsmile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-D' />



    [url="http://forum.agile.ws/index.php?/topic/3361-1password-for-windows-phone-7-is-here/"]1Password for Windows Phone 7 is here![/url]



    Cheers!
  • [quote name='khad' timestamp='1295986572' post='19479']

    As Rob said, it wasn't "next week," but is the week after acceptable? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_bigsmile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-D' />



    [url="http://forum.agile.ws/index.php?/topic/3361-1password-for-windows-phone-7-is-here/"]1Password for Windows Phone 7 is here![/url]



    Cheers!

    [/quote]



    Sneaky. I'm impressed that you guys manage to maintain such great customer service while supporting so many new platforms. Well done.
  • khad
    khad Social Choreographer
    Thanks for the kind words! It's part of what makes Agile…agile. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />
  • I knew I wasn't insane. Lmao! I knew I asked about it in January and only now noticing it was released it January.



    you guys are crazy! good stuff! lol.



    Thank you very much. Wish I would have known it was out sooner. Only app I need now is my banking app, Chase.
  • [quote name='duvi' timestamp='1305008981' post='26693']

    I knew I wasn't insane. Lmao! I knew I asked about it in January and only now noticing it was released it January.



    you guys are crazy! good stuff! lol.

    [/quote]



    I remember this thread now, too! Time sure does fly. Crazy indeed. Who knows what'll be next? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />







    I take it you're enjoying WP7 then. I have to admit I am curious myself, but at this point they would have to pry my iPhone out of my cold, dead hands. You never know, though. Things change. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
  • kop48
    kop48 Junior Member
    edited May 2011
    Wow - amazing stuff! With the Mango update coming out for WP7, and now you guys supporting the platform, I'm regretting getting an iPhone!
  • khad
    khad Social Choreographer
    Heresy! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



    At the moment 1Password is still in beta and read-only on Windows Phone 7, so console yourself with that at least. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />
  • duvi
    edited May 2011
    [quote name='brenty' timestamp='1305018694' post='26696']

    I remember this thread now, too! Time sure does fly. Crazy indeed. Who knows what'll be next? <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />







    I take it you're enjoying WP7 then. I have to admit I am curious myself, but at this point they would have to pry my iPhone out of my cold, dead hands. You never know, though. Things change. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

    [/quote]



    I sure am. All I need now is my Chase banking app and I'll be set. I used to say the same, but now my iPhone 4 is collecting dust on my desk right now. I haven't used it in months.



    If you're going to try one, get the Focus.
  • [quote name='khad' timestamp='1305054671' post='26731']

    Heresy! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



    At the moment 1Password is still in beta and read-only on Windows Phone 7, so console yourself with that at least. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-)' />

    [/quote]





    i'll be patiently waiting. i only ever need it for read-only on my mobile devices anyways.



    if you have betas you'd like me to test out, i have an unlocked Focus (please say yes... ha).
  • dteare
    dteare Agile Founder
    [quote name='duvi' timestamp='1305619289' post='27169']

    i'll be patiently waiting. i only ever need it for read-only on my mobile devices anyways.



    if you have betas you'd like me to test out, i have an unlocked Focus (please say yes... ha).

    [/quote]



    I'm confused, did this post not work for you?



    [url=http://forum.agile.ws/index.php?/topic/3360-1password-for-windows-phone-7-is-here/]1Password for Windows Phone 7 is here![/url]



    Do you mean you can't install 1Password because your phone is unlocked?



    The kids have been wearing me out today, so please forgive me if I'm missing something obvious <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />
  • [quote name='dteare' timestamp='1305654510' post='27202']

    The kids have been wearing me out today, so please forgive me if I'm missing something obvious <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

    [/quote]



    It sounds like duvi is happily using 1Password for Windows Phone 7, Dave. I think what he meant was he awaits future betas, since the current one is read-only. <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



    You need a nap! <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

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