Firefox 4 Beta

dragonfly

I was just wondering, is Firefox 4 (beta) is going to be supported? It just came out, and I'm testing the beta, but the add-on can't be enabled. It was in 3.7a.



Thanks.

[Deleted User]

Hi dragonfly,



First of all, welcome to the forums, thanks for joining us!



I'll pass this along to our developers, it may be that there's been a change to the Firefox plugin framework that could be causing our plugin to not load. It can take us a bit of time to get a new browser version, particularly a Beta version, up and running with 1Password.



I'll have to download the Firefox 4 alpha myself and give it a try, I'm not a huge Firefox fan but I always like to give them another chance with a new update.



Hope that helps,

dragonfly

Thanks for the reply. I'm using a trial version, but I hope that doesn't make a difference on the installation.



I like the new Firefox 4 even though it's in beta. I think they finally fixed some of the biggest problems, like memory leaks and 100% CPU usage. But we'll see what makes it to the final version.



If Safari supported the add-ons that Firefox does, I would use it. Of course, I'm sure Apple would limit that too like it does on the iPhone. ;)

[Deleted User]

[quote name='dragonfly']Thanks for the reply. I'm using a trial version, but I hope that doesn't make a difference on the installation.[/QUOTE]



No it shouldn't do, we don't restrict the trial in regards to how the browser extensions work, otherwise you wouldn't get a full picture of how 1Password works.



[quote name='dragonfly']I like the new Firefox 4 even though it's in beta. I think they finally fixed some of the biggest problems, like memory leaks and 100% CPU usage. But we'll see what makes it to the final version.[/QUOTE]



Oooh, that sounds good to me, that was one of my biggest problems with Firefox in it's current form



[quote name='dragonfly']If Safari supported the add-ons that Firefox does, I would use it. Of course, I'm sure Apple would limit that too like it does on the iPhone. ;)[/QUOTE]



Safari 5 adds exactly this, Apple released a whole extension API at WWDC, it's pretty awesome, and while they are doing an "Extensions Store" or similar there's nothing to stop you installing extensions from a 3rd party. I don't think Apple have ever, or will ever, go down the restricted approach with regards to what software you can and can't run on OS X.



All the best,

dragonfly

Stu,



Thanks for the head's up. I'll be sure to check that out. I have Safari and use it for a few limited sites, but I think I mostly abounded it back in version 2. 1P does work perfectly in Safari 5.



I agree; I don't see Apple really controlling what runs on a Mac. Still, I've been a Mac user since 1988, so I've gotten used to better than some of their current moves.



I think my main iTunes/App Store issue is that when Apple yanks an app you've already paid for, they won't refund your money. I had that happen recently, and they yanked it less than a week after my purchasing it. GRRR Kind of shocking based on Apple's other policies. I know it says "All sales final," but I wasn't expecting to rent the software!

MikeT

[quote name='dragonfly']Stu,



Thanks for the head's up. I'll be sure to check that out. I have Safari and use it for a few limited sites, but I think I mostly abounded it back in version 2. 1P does work perfectly in Safari 5.



I agree; I don't see Apple really controlling what runs on a Mac. Still, I've been a Mac user since 1988, so I've gotten used to better than some of their current moves.



I think my main iTunes/App Store issue is that when Apple yanks an app you've already paid for, they won't refund your money. I had that happen recently, and they yanked it less than a week after my purchasing it. GRRR Kind of shocking based on Apple's other policies. I know it says "All sales final," but I wasn't expecting to rent the software![/QUOTE]



Have you actually contacted iTunes support about refunds? They do provide refunds after you contact them. I know some people who was in the same situation as you and iTunes support did refund them.

dragonfly

I did. Their reply was "All sales are final." They wouldn't discuss it beyond that. Rather bad customer service since we're talking about 99 cents! So, I'll still buy Macs and Apple OS and iPhone apps all because I have to, but my music purchases now come from Amazon. lol

dragonfly

Using the Add-on Compatibility Reporter add-on, I was able to get 1Password to work with Firefox 4 beta. [url]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15003/[/url]



So, as far as I can tell, 1Password works perfectly with the latest version. I'm not sure how you make it official with Mozilla, but it's working. (party)

[Deleted User]

Thanks for the info, dragonfly, and thanks for posting the link from other similar threads, +10 forum points for you :-)

dragonfly

Woohoo! I was just excited to find a working answer. :)

skylarp

I am also running Firefox 4 beta 1 with the extension enabled, and it is working like a charm. The only downside is the toolbar icon, which is not super attractive due to the new, squared icons. Any chance we'll get an updated version soon?

[Deleted User]

[quote name='skylarp']I am also running Firefox 4 beta 1 with the extension enabled, and it is working like a charm. The only downside is the toolbar icon, which is not super attractive due to the new, squared icons. Any chance we'll get an updated version soon?[/QUOTE]



Hi, skylarp



First of all, welcome to the forums, great to have you here! I can't say for certain when we'll be able to get an update out for Firefox 4, especially while it's still in Beta, but I will pass the icon issue along to our developers.



Thanks for the feedback, glad to hear the plugin itself works for you.

dragonfly

I'm sorry to report that the latest Firefox nightly build wiped out 1Password and just about every other useful add-on. :(



I like the menu better than the toolbar. I can still get the toolbar to load, but the menu is gone. Nice while it lasted though, and who knows what the next build will fix or destroy.

MikeT

[quote name='dragonfly']I'm sorry to report that the latest Firefox nightly build wiped out 1Password and just about every other useful add-on. :(



I like the menu better than the toolbar. I can still get the toolbar to load, but the menu is gone. Nice while it lasted though, and who knows what the next build will fix or destroy.[/QUOTE]



You probably need to wait a few day for the compatibility checker to get updated before it can enable other addons.

neilio

As reported above, the latest Firefox 4.0 nightlies breaks 1P in a somewhat odd way: it's possible to enable the extension and you can see the 1P toolbar, but the main toolbar icon isn't visible in the "customize toolbar" dropdown, and none of the functionality in the 1P toolbar actually works. The keyboard shortcuts are also not working.



I tried deleting and reinstalling the extension to no avail.



(Firefox 4.0b2pre 20100704 nightly, 1Password 3.2.5).

RobYoder

[quote name='neilio']As reported above, the latest Firefox 4.0 nightlies breaks 1P in a somewhat odd way: it's possible to enable the extension and you can see the 1P toolbar, but the main toolbar icon isn't visible in the "customize toolbar" dropdown, and none of the functionality in the 1P toolbar actually works. The keyboard shortcuts are also not working.



I tried deleting and reinstalling the extension to no avail.



(Firefox 4.0b2pre 20100704 nightly, 1Password 3.2.5).[/QUOTE]



Thanks for the report neilio!

keithslater

Just wondering if there was any update to this. The Firefox 4 beta is live and it would be nice to have 1password back in my Firefox.

RobYoder

[quote name='keithslater']Just wondering if there was any update to this. The Firefox 4 beta is live and it would be nice to have 1password back in my Firefox.[/QUOTE]



Hi Keith, and welcome to the forums!



We don't officially "support" any alpha, beta or "nightly" builds of browsers but we quite often work just fine with them.



For Firefox 4, it has been reported that 1Password can be made to work by downloading the "Add-on Compatibility Reporter" from this URL and then enabling the 1Password extension:



[url]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15003/[/url]



Hope that helps! Let us know how it turns out.

dteare

[quote name='keithslater']Just wondering if there was any update to this. The Firefox 4 beta is live and it would be nice to have 1password back in my Firefox.[/QUOTE]



I'm going to try to release a new beta today that will enable Firefox 4 functionality.



[quote name='skylarp']The only downside is the toolbar icon, which is not super attractive due to the new, squared icons. Any chance we'll get an updated version soon?[/quote]



We will get a new icon for Firefox 4. It will not make it into today's 1Password beta, unfortunately, as I want to get this update out asap so people can use it.

Streakmachine

Sounds great! I rather have the functionality back for now and take the impact of a slightly less aesthetic button for the time being.

kop48

My 1Password Extension worked out of the box. To enable extensions without installing the Compat Reporter, just enable this key in about:config:

[quote]extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b[/quote]

Source: [url]http://lifehacker.com/5581743/how-to-bypass-firefox-40-betas-incompatible-add+on-error-and-install-extensions-anyway[/url]



Cheers,

jrd4849

Mac OSX 10.6.4, 1Password 3.3.0.BETA-1 (30675), Firefox 4.0b1 with compatibility extension enabled. With 1Password extension enabled FF crashes on exit every time. The error window "Firefox quit unexpectedly..." pops up. If I disable the extension for FF in 1Password preferences then FF exits normally with no errors when the program is closed. Tried a fresh profile in FF but the same thing happens. Forgot to mention that 1Password works ok while FF is running.

dteare

[quote name='jrd4849']Mac OSX 10.6.4, 1Password 3.3.0.BETA-1 (30675), Firefox 4.0b1 with compatibility extension enabled. With 1Password extension enabled FF crashes on exit every time. The error window "Firefox quit unexpectedly..." pops up. If I disable the extension for FF in 1Password preferences then FF exits normally with no errors when the program is closed. Tried a fresh profile in FF but the same thing happens. Forgot to mention that 1Password works ok while FF is running.[/QUOTE]



Thanks for the report. I think it may be related to our Http Authentication window code.



Try disabling the "Show in authentication panels" checkbox in the 1Password > Preferences > Browsers window and see if that side steps the issue.

jrd4849

Thanks Dave. Yes that does work. No crash on closing with that box unchecked.

dteare

[quote name='jrd4849']Thanks Dave. Yes that does work. No crash on closing with that box unchecked.[/QUOTE]



Thanks for the update! I was able to recreate this issue a few times too so I think we have everything we need to fix it.



Just an FYI – Firefox 4 is still in the very early beta stages and this crash could magically disappear in a future update. Since this is a moving target we will not spend too much time trying to track this down. If we can find a quick fix, great, if not, we might have to wait a bit.

matthewrex

So this is a weird one. I installed the latest 1PW beta and Firefox 4 beta. The button shows up in the toolbar,[I] but nothing happens when I click it[/I]! It actually "freezes" the toolbar for a second, and I have to click once to be able to click another button.



It's almost like the menu is there, but not visible. And clicking again is hiding the menu like it normally would, but I can't see it in the first place! Weird! :^)

kop48

[quote name='matthewrex']So this is a weird one. I installed the latest 1PW beta and Firefox 4 beta. The button shows up in the toolbar,[I] but nothing happens when I click it[/I]! It actually "freezes" the toolbar for a second, and I have to click once to be able to click another button.



It's almost like the menu is there, but not visible. And clicking again is hiding the menu like it normally would, but I can't see it in the first place! Weird! :^)[/QUOTE]



Does the Fill keyboard shortcut work tho?

fred909

Confirming MatthewRex's experience. Kop48, no, the fill keyboard shortcut does not work.



I'm running 1Password 3.3.0.BETA-2 of the FF plugin, 1Password Version 3.3.0.BETA-2 (build 30676), and FF Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:2.0b2pre) Gecko/20100708 Minefield/4.0b2pre.

kop48

Have you tried running the b1 build instead?

Have you tried disabling all other extensions?



I'm asking this because mine is running fine in the b1 build...

fred909

How can I get the b1 version now that I've installed the latest update? Thanks.

kop48

[url]http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/[/url] <- download and install again.