Cut it Out

Oxon

I wanted to use the Trashcan to store old Wallet items, such as closed Bank/Savings accounts, destroyed credit cards etc. in case I need the details in the future.



To avoid cluttering these records with old ones that I don't want to keep, I used "Cut" from the context menu on the titles of the unwanted items in Shelf view. Although they were removed, a few seconds later they reappeared. Is this a bug or, if not, what's the point of "Cut"?

Oxon

...... PS - version 3.9.0

Ben

Hi there,



Yes this is a bug. It has been fixed in the betas and will be included in the next update. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Oxon

Just updated to 3.9.1 and 'Cut' items still reappear after Quitting and Relaunching (Wallet items, Shelf View). Strangely, I've cut some login items and they haven't reappeared yet.

Ben

Hi Oxon,



Can you please install the latest extension in all browsers that you have 1Password installed in and see if that helps?



https://agilebits.com/extensions/mac/index.html



Thanks

Oxon

Hi Ben



I only use Safari 5.1.1 and have extension 3.8.6 installed.



Oxon

khad

I'm not sure if this is working as designed or not, but I will mention it to the developers. I can see a case for being a bit more protective of 1Password data than, say, a sentence from a text file, but I will see if I can find out if this is a bug or a feature. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';-)' />

Oxon

Thanks Khad.



Perhaps what I really need is an area to store old records that are no longer "live" (and therefore don't appear in the main lists) that I nevertheless want to keep. That would leave the Trash to be used as intended, rather than a storage for old records.



A Feature Request perhaps?

thightower

Add my vote for the Archive vault.



Maybe in 4.0 ??? PLEASE.. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

khad

Noted. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

Oxon

Khad - did you find out whether the re-appearing wallet items is a bug or a feature?

khad

As far as I understand, this is working as designed in order that no item is "orphaned" or essentially deleted (by cutting and then quitting) without explicit instructions from the user to [b]delete[/b] the item. Cutting, forgetting, and quitting is too destructive to implement in that way. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_worried.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':S' />

Oxon

Thanks Khad. That just leaves me with the question: why would anyone Cut a record when Paste seems to leave it in the same place - e.g. you can't Cut from Wallet and Paste to Logins?

khad

1. In some cases it may be much simpler to cut an item from one folder and then paste it into another rather than drag and drag and drag through a long list before dropping it.

2. Cutting/copying an item to the clipboard technically places its JSON data in the clipboard. This is mostly just useful for us, but you can paste it into TextEdit to see it yourself. Please keep in mind that this is the unencrypted data, so treat it as carefully as you would your password in the clipboard.



That said, I don't know that I have personally ever cut an item in 1Password except in the course of testing. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />