Keep unlocked on Windows?

Thanks for the link that explains why 1Password behaves so much differently on Windows than it does on the Mac. Because I restart my browser a lot in Windows, I thought 1Password just had some random timeout, but now I understand it has to do with killing the last browser process for which 1Password was unlocked.

What if I dont need a master password at all. You should really include a setting to remove master password. That's the only thing preventing me purchasing 1pw right now. As Peter321 mentioned, users should have the option to trade a bit of security for convenience.



These are the facts:

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[*]I launch and close my browser 6289683456 times everyday. It's really pain typing the master password in each login.

[*]I'm the only one using my pc so I dont need to hide my logins from anyone else.

[*]I know that my pc is secure enough that I dont need a master password.

[*]1pw is easy to use, has much more features than the built-in firefox password manager, that's why I prefer using 1pw.

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[quote name='Stefan van As' timestamp='1291623473' post='16994']

On Mac, things are different because on Mac we can store your master password securely. [b]On Windows, there is no way to store your master password securely[/b]. As a matter of fact, we recommend you never store your master password anywhere but your brain.

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[b]On Windows, you can use Crendial Manager API[/b] (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa375177) to access to system credential storage (encrypted and secure). I'm write sample application - it's use system dialog to query for login (useless for us, but present) & password, and store data into system storage:



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It's need to enter password only one time (with "save password" checked) - next time, password will be sent to application without any dialogs <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



ps helpful article - http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/03/07/windows-7-exploring-credential-manager-and-windows-vault

I haven't heard of Windows Vault.



Is it new to Windows 7 or available in Vista and XP, as well?

Please, don't confuse a different things - [b]windows vault[/b], a clear UI in control panel with backup / restore features, and [b]credential manager api[/b] - set of functions are used to store passwords.



Yes, windows vault is introduced in windows 7. But, credential manager api (please try to read MSDN article - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa375177, "Requirements" part) is exists in Windows XP <img src='http://forum.agile.ws/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />



As i say later, code to use credential manager is very simple - about 130 lines of code. For more compatability you may use dynamic linking and call LoadLibrary / GetProcAddress for CredUIPromptForCredentialsW and CredUIConfirmCredentialsW after checking of OS version.

Hi again, Zenara!



Please see [url="http://forum.agile.ws/index.php?/topic/3073-prevent-from-having-to-unlock-over-and-over-again/page__view__findpost__p__19032"]my reply[/url] in the 1Password for Windows forum.



Note that you can cut down the number of master password prompts by (a) adjusting the auto-lock preferences and (b) keeping the browser open rather than closing it after each use.



I hope that helps.

Zenara, your invocations of Firefox will be completely separate from your husband's invocations of Firefox, especially as you're running Firefox in different operating systems.

So, you use the same Windows account but maintain separate bookmarks and settings in Firefox by having two Firefox profiles? Interesting!



Regardless, any time you close the last window of a program in Windows, you're also quitting that program. As explained in [url="http://help.agile.ws/1Password_Windows/data-locked.html"][i]Why is the 1Password data file locked?[/i][/url] in the [i]FAQ[/i] section of the user's guide, the locked/unlocked status of your 1Password data is maintained separately for each process, so every time you relaunch Firefox you'll also need to unlock your 1Password data.

Thanks for the update, Zenara!

[quote name='Stefan van As' timestamp='1296338496' post='19734']

You're using the same Windows user account and the same 1Password keychain, but you do not want to use the same bookmarks?

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Yes. My husband and I have done it that way for quite a few years. Makes it easier to get to your own bookmarks faster, while having your own firefox preferences, add-ons, font sizes, personas, etc. As well as not having to log out and log back in to our own gmail accounts, facebook, twitter, ebay, etc. Overall it makes surfing the internet much easier and faster.

A few important notes about having this new feature enabled:



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[*]Unlocking your 1Password data in the extension for one browser also unlocks your 1Password data in the extensions for all the other 1Password-enabled browsers.



[*]This is still less secure than the default behavior. You may want to consider tightening up your Auto-Lock settings on the Security tab of 1Password preferences.



[*]As noted below the new option on the Browsers tab of 1Password preferences:

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[*]Enabling this option is not recommended on public or shared computers.

[*]Changing this setting requires restarting any running web browsers.

[*]This setting does not affect the lock status of the 1Password program.

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[quote name='CurbedEnthusiasm' timestamp='1304047255' post='25848']

I'd love this, too. It's tough having these features in other programs and then not having them in 1Password.

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This is addressed in this thread, specifically by these posts:



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[quote name='Stefan von Dutch' timestamp='1302505263' post='24569']

Please download [the latest version of 1Password for Windows].



Then enable this setting: File > Preferences (Ctrl+P) > Browsers > "leave extensions unlocked when browsers are closed"



Please let us know how this is working for you.



Thanks, Stefan.

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[quote name='DBrown' timestamp='1302558808' post='24610']

A few important notes about having this new feature enabled:



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[*]Unlocking your 1Password data in the extension for one browser also unlocks your 1Password data in the extensions for all the other 1Password-enabled browsers.



[*]This is still less secure than the default behavior. You may want to consider tightening up your Auto-Lock settings on the Security tab of 1Password preferences.



[*]As noted below the new option on the Browsers tab of 1Password preferences:

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[*]Enabling this option is not recommended on public or shared computers.

[*]Changing this setting requires restarting any running web browsers.

[*]This setting does not affect the lock status of the 1Password program.

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CE, you can read all about the lock/unlock behavior in [url="http://help.agile.ws/1Password_Windows/data-locked.html"][i]Why is my 1Password data locked?[/i][/url] in the [i]FAQ[/i] section of the user's guide.