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Wi-Fi Syncing
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[quote name='LosInvalidos' timestamp='1355513228' post='65305']
what makes you think that in a closed source software like 1Password there is no backdoor? Have you analyzed their source code?
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I know for a fact that there is not a back door.
Also, let me at something to the discussion about protection from the government.
The government doesn't need to crack your DropBox/iCloud account to get to the sort of information you store in 1Password. If they are after you they will get warrants, come to your house, and take your computer. They will go straight to your bank, credit card company, telephone company, ISP, and get all the information they want on you. If this was a national security issue they may even arrest you and torture you. They don't need your 1Password database.
What we are really protecting against is criminals, identity thieves, etc. and in my opinion an encrypted database on an encrypted cloud service is fairly low risk. If some hacker manages to sort through the millions of cloud accounts to find mine, cracks the encryption, and then empties my bank account I will simply call the bank and report it. They'll refund and investigate in almost every case. Also, the criminal who went through all this trouble will be highly disappointed when they see my balance. LOLFlag 0 -
I was shocked seeing the WiFi sync removed from iOS. My workflow is broken now. This issue is very important for me so I am taking the time to write this post.
Everyone should decide for himself/herself to store highly-sensitive data (even if encrypted) into cloud systems. By removing the 2-way WiFi sync (and yes, iTunes file sharing is by far no replacement for that) Agile makes this choice for all customers. Dropbox had severe security issues in the past and the thought that some hackers or even government agencies or secret services are playing with my keychain file would drive me crazy. I did not expect that from a company like Agile where it's all about security. And I am not alone with that. I recommended 1Password to many friends in the past (I can't do this anymore now of course) and none of them wants cloud storage. I have also seen many App Store reviews (in my German store for example), forum entries, tweets and even blog articles complaining about this issue. I think you are underestimating this.
I don't want my most secret data on a server in a foreign country, but as a user of multiple devices (Mac, iPhone and iPad) I need a 2-way sync. I never had an issue with your WiFi sync, please give your customers at least an option to use it! I am going back to version 3 for now and I am open for alternative solutions. But all the good features in 1Password are hard to replace. It's very sad to see this huge step backwards <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/skype_sadsmile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':-(' />.
Agile, you are running in the wrong direction and now is the time to correct that.Flag 0 -
Wi-Fi Sync is for people who don't want to share their data with the US Gov thanks to Patriot Act etc.
Sorry AgileBits, but without Wi-Fi Sync you are loosing me as a customer.
I'm not willing to use any cloud sync for my private data!
[quote name='Carl' timestamp='1355544124' post='65399']
Buy version 4 and setup a DropBox account already.
Wi-Fi syncing is for losers stuck in 2005. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
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[quote name='khad' timestamp='1355478854' post='65209']
Wi-Fi Sync has been removed from 1Password 4 for iOS because, honestly, it was not a great customer experience. It was difficult to set up, and more so, difficult for many customers to maintain.
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How many customers did you ask about the "customer experience"? I hope you are not only counting the few customers with wifi-problems. For one customer with a bad "wifi-sync-experience" there may be thousands with no problems at all. I never had problems with wifi-sync, not in 1PW, not in Things, not in OmniFocus.Flag 0 -
[quote name='roustem' timestamp='1355514713' post='65309']
We spent thousands of hours supporting users with Wi-Fi issues in 1Password 3.
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Thousands of hours? Per month? Per year? For the last ten years? Can we now expect lower prices for 1PW because agile needs much less employees for the support?
Now your paying customers, who take care of their data and don't want to trust the cloud, will need thousands of hours to "sync" their data manually. Thank you, AgileBits.Flag 0 -
I've never had any problems with WiFi sync.
I don't use iTunes for syncing my iOS devices, and I don't want to use Dropbox, so I'll be holding off on upgrading until 1Password 4 for Mac is released with iCloud support...Flag 0 -
What it sounds like to me is AgileBits made an orbitary decision to remove an existing feature and are now having to justify the removal to users who need said feature. It is a very sad state of affairs we are in.
The official line is to get onboard with the Cloud, Dropbox or eat our $$$ and continue to use 1Password V3. What they are missing is they are not the only application available and by taking the stance they are, they are alienating their user base which is also their customer base.Flag 0 -
[quote name='Carl' timestamp='1355544124' post='65399']
Wi-Fi syncing is for losers stuck in 2005.
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No - Wi-Fi syncing is for people with life experience, because it is not wise to assume, that services like iCloud and Dropbox are really safe now and/or for all times.Flag 0 -
The one thing that is super useful is the way the Wi-Fi sync in 1Password 3 allows for syncing of specific folder(s) to your mobile device.
Is there any we to choose which specific passwords that will be transfered/synced/copy to (using either iTunes or Dropbox) the 1Password 4 iOS app from 1Password 3 on OS X?Flag 0 -
[quote]We spent thousands of hours supporting users with Wi-Fi issues in 1Password 3. It is very difficult because there are so many moving parts and it requires very technical users.[/quote]
It is very easy. The only problem is your help file. If you spent just one hour and wrote a clear instruction how to use it, everybody could use wifi sync without any problem. Now you have broken a good working program and lost a couple of paying clients. I'm not sure if this was your idea. Anyway: It was a bad idea. A very bad one. That's sure. (Don't forget: AgileBits is not Apple. You don't have so many faithful fanboys.)Flag 0 -
While iPassword 4 seemed like a significant step up when I initially installed it, I became disillusioned after reading this thread and realizing that by upgrading, I was actually trading off important functionality and security for a little more polished user interface. Initially I thought the problems I was having with synching in "iTunes mode" was a configuration error on my part, or poorly written instructions. I emailed Agilebits support for assistance but have yet to receive a reply.
The Agilebits advertising seems to imply that the itunes mode is a true synch mode that replaces the wifi mode, and not just the cludgy manual copy procedure that it is, as I learned only after reading this thread. Tech support's cavalier attitude that people need not concern themselves with having critical password files on a public flile server, appears to be a disingenous excuse for deleting what a significant number of their customers would consider to be a key critical feature in any quality password management and syncronization software.
Truly disappointed in Agielbits' apparent decision that gloss trumps functionality and security in their upgrade design decisons. Never had a problem with wifi synch in the prior version, and will most likely revert back to it and request a refund.Flag 0 -
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I am pretty sure Carl is correct and wifi sync will not return. But the paid support staff is better to answer.Flag 0 -
[quote name='Thorgeir' timestamp='1355605671' post='65491']
It is very easy. The only problem is your help file. If you spent just one hour and wrote a clear instruction how to use it, everybody could use wifi sync without any problem. Now you have broken a good working program and lost a couple of paying clients. I'm not sure if this was your idea. Anyway: It was a bad idea. A very bad one. That's sure. (Don't forget: AgileBits is not Apple. You don't have so many faithful fanboys.)
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Guide is here: [url="http://help.agilebits.com/1Password_touch/sync_problems.html"]http://help.agilebit...c_problems.html[/url]
In this guide we collected all the tips and tricks we could find while helping the users in the past 4 years.
When you are in support mode, the perspective changes quite a bit. All you see and hear is how bad things are. For 4 years, all we heard about Wi-Fi sync is that it is a huge source of problems and disappointment for our customers. The 1Password 4 is rewritten from the ground up, there is no code shared with 1Password 3. Re-implementing Wi-Fi sync again was never on the list.
The iTunes Sharing is more secure than the Wi-Fi sync and does not have any of its connectivity issues. It is less convenient though. We are looking at ways to make things easier but have nothing figured out yet. It is not something that can be done quickly. Our main focus at the moment is adding iCloud support to the Mac version.
We updated the FAQs and the App Store description to mention that Wi-Fi sync is not available in 1Password 4. If the lack of Wi-Fi sync is stopping you from using 1Password, please ask for a refund. The version 3 is still working and it is available in the Purchased section of the App Store.Flag 0 -
I'm sorry Wi-Fi syncing never made it into 1Password 4 as I know there's some valid use cases at the moment where it is needed. For example, a really nice fellow from China just emailed me explaining that the Great Firewall prevents all Dropbox access and he's been using Wi-Fi syncing as a workaround until we finish adding iCloud syncing to Mac. I told him to keep using version 3 for now until Mac added iCloud support in the new year.
As for why we didn't we add Wi-Fi syncing in version 4, the main reason is it was very brittle. Just look at the [url="http://help.agilebits.com/1Password_touch/sync_problems.html"]Wi-Fi Sync Troubleshooting Guide[/url] to see just how many things could go wrong. And this list didn't cover everything as we still have customers with weird networks and have never been able to sync over Wi-Fi. It's very frustrating to the users and for us.
Then there's the user experience itself: even when Wi-Fi worked it was a huge PITA. You had to start 1Password on each device and trigger the sync. If you added new accounts and forgot to sync (or remembered to sync one device but not the other), you'd be without your data.
I never say never but for these reasons I'm pretty sure Wi-Fi syncing will not be added back into 1Password. If you cannot use Dropbox, hopefully you will be able to use iCloud in the new year when it's available on Mac. If you are unable to use iCloud and Dropbox and the iTunes File Sharing doesn't suit your needs, you will need to stick with version 3 until we find a solution that works for you.
We're always evaluating new sync options and if possible we hope to someday add a solution where you can sync without relying on a central server. Hopefully we can find a solution that meets everyone's needs.
OT: Hi Carl! It's been a while <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I hope you're doing well.Flag 0 -
Who is not crazy will never give all his passwords, credit card data and so on to a cloud. So you should conceal well the fact that you omitted Wifi sync from 1password, because many people, as you can see here, didn't buy the new version if they knew about that stupid decision.Flag 0
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[quote name='Thorgeir' timestamp='1355612265' post='65515']Who is not crazy will never give all his passwords, credit card data and so on to a cloud...[/quote]
This comment seems to reflect the general attitude of most of the most vocal users of Wi-Fi syncing in this thread, but I actually find it somewhat interesting...
Unless you're really subscribing to conspiracy theories, it's a safe assumption that the developers and other employees of 1Password are using their own software themselves for their own secure data, and since 1Password 4 no longer supports Wi-Fi sync, they're obviously trusting all of their own "passwords, credit card data and so on" to Dropbox and/or iCloud.
By this logic, they must all be crazy. So, why would you want to run software created and developed by a bunch of crazy people? <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
In all seriousness, I'm really not disparaging anybody's desire to have Wi-Fi syncing, and I do believe there are other valid reasons why it may be a preferred option that go beyond even personal security. However, we should also accept the fact that there are many people -- obviously including 1Password's own developers -- who trust the combination of encryption and cloud services enough to actually use cloud-based syncing.
For what it's worth, BTW, I actually [i]do[/i] agree that I would never trust any cloud service by itself with my important data either -- I well remember Dropbox's "fail open" last year -- but I [i]do[/i] trust good encryption. Realistically, 90% of what I store in services like Dropbox is stuff that nobody would honestly care about (you want pictures of my cat, you're welcome to them). The other 10% that that I put up there is encrypted on my end before it leaves my computer.Flag 0 -
[quote name='LosInvalidos' timestamp='1355513228' post='65305']
what makes you think that in a closed source software like 1Password there is no backdoor?
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What makes you think 1Password 3 does not secretly upload all you passwords to the NSA/FBI/CIA? Even if you tell it to only use wifi sync? If you are this paranoid, why trust any password manager at all? Why not only use KeePass which source code you can analyse? I'll answer that for you: out of convinience. 1Password is a lot more userfriendly. And so is iCloud/dropbox sync. If you need wifi sync, stay on 1Password 3, even if it might br back doored. Because it is convenient for you.Flag 0 -
While our Agile Keychain Design document doesn't directly address the question of whether or not there is a backdoor in 1Password, it does show that we are as open as possible about our data formats, which are fully available for inspection:
[url="http://help.agile.ws/1Password/agile_keychain_design.html"]http://help.agile.ws...ain_design.html[/url]
However, that is only part of an answer. There are, in fact, two parts to the question. One is about a backdoor which someone at AgileBits would maliciously put in the code, the other is about a third party supplying you with a modified version of 1Password. For the latter, we use Apple's codesigning system as well as have our updater verify each download against a digital signature. I can give you more detail about those if you wish, but I suspect that you are more interested to know that we are not the bad guys ourselves.
The simple truth is that you can never be absolutely certain that there is no backdoor. There isn't one, but if we would do something so evil as to put in a backdoor, we certainly would be willing to lie about it. So you can't simply take our word for it. Nonetheless, there are things that I can point to which are strong indicators that there is no backdoor. I know that we at AgileBits are all good people, but simply stating that does not prove it. Therefore, let me point to reasons that go beyond reliance on our virtue.
It would be incredibly foolish of us from a business perspective to put in a backdoor. The trust that we have from our customers is our livelihood. There are very sophisticated security researchers out there scrutinizing 1Password for security flaws. If they were to discover a backdoor, our reputation and business would come to an end. Consider the effort that has gone into developing 1Password over the years. Our business is about providing a quality product and support. If we were seeking credit card numbers and online banking credentials, we would be conducting our business differently. These are some great reasons to avoid low-cost password managers from fly-by-night companies who don't offer a lot of detail about their formats and methods.
We have never had any government pressure to put in a backdoor. We are a Canadian company, and we have an international staff. If one government were to try to pressure us, we could easily relocate the business to another jurisdiction.
Lots of people within AgileBits have access to the source code which means that if one of us tried to put in a backdoor, others would spot it. So it would not be possible for just one or two people colluding to do it. At the same time, only a few people have the ability to sign the code that gets distributed, so all changes do get reviewed.
We can't be as fully open as an open source project, but within the constraints of our business we try to be as open as possible. With our Chrome extension, where more code is written in JavaScript, that source is available for inspection (although parts of it are obfuscated).
For network operations, you can monitor all network traffic coming from 1Password and its components. You will only find three cases where 1Password opens a network connection.
1. For WiFi syncing (if you use it with iOS version 3) 1Password for Mac will pick up host information over Bonjour and then open up a connection on the local network to 1Password on an iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch but only when you have set things up for Wi-Fi syncing.
2. Our updater will check for new updates, fetch them, and verify their signature. You can disable this if you wish (Preferences > Updates > Automatically check for updates).
3. Thumbnail previews are retrieved when you create a new Login. 1Password will attempt to create a preview of that page (with no form filling). This can also be disabled (Preferences > Logins > Login Previews).
All of the encryption and security protocols we use are from well known and well reviewed libraries. This means that it would be harder for us to conceal a backdoor as we just aren't in a position to make subtle changes to the actual encryption algorithms and protocols. Our practice of not "rolling our own" encryption implementation is also an overall security advantage.
I hope that this goes some way to reassuring you. As I said, we know we are honest, and we want you to know that too. Caution and skepticism are healthy habits, though, especially when it comes to security.
Please let me know if you would like any clarification of any of these points or if there is anything else I can help with. If so, we should probably move this discussion to a separate thread.
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[quote name='RichieB' timestamp='1355615462' post='65528']
What makes you think 1Password 3 does not secretly upload all you passwords to the NSA/FBI/CIA? Even if you tell it to only use wifi sync?
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Ever heard of LittleSnitch? And yes, KeePass is an alternative I'm looking at. As is Password Gorilla.
khad, your reply is appreciated. But in all honesty, again, all this boils down to a question of trust. Dropbox told users, there was no way, that anybody could access the users data, up until reality proved them wrong. They even had to change their TOS after the breach.
I'm really not trying to say that 1P does have a backdoor. I have not the mildest indicator of that. But again, I also have no indicator that there is not a second encryption key and that once the data is in the cloud it can be decrypted.
It boils down to the fact, that this is security related software and that convenience is only the second priority. If I wouldn't need security, there'd be no need to use 1P in the first place, right? But now, that we are using it, why not demand high security standards? And convenience aside, dropbox is a great case to teach us all, what can happen if you trust sensitive data to such companies. I am well aware that the data is encrypted. But see above for the example of the famous verbatim company and their burning software. Those things are real and nothing I just made up in my paranoid mind...Flag 0 -
[quote name='jhollington' timestamp='1355613478' post='65521']By this logic, they must all be crazy.[/quote]
That's the logic of a german word: "Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren: Scheiße ist lecker." (May be somebody can translate this, I can't...)
It means in this context: There may be millions of people who believe that their data are secure in iCloud or dropbox. There are tens of millions of people who tell everything about their life at FaceBook, because they believe, it is secure. This doesn't mean that they are right, and it doesn't mean that I must do and believe what they do and believe. There was once a big company which believed to make a huge profit, when they write a office package in Java (it was the time, Java was new an really en vogue.) They thought that it matters for the customer, which language they used. I didn't, and this office package is dead now and the company nearly dead.
Here we speak about a very important file and about it's security. I will not put it to the internet, whoever will say me that this is secure. It isn't. That's sure. And if something happens and somebody empties my bank account, all will say, that this is my fault, because the risc is to big, when you put such a file t the net. And they are right.
So I stick with my opinion: If one puts this file to the net, it either doesn't contain important data, or he is crazy.Flag 0 -
[quote name='LosInvalidos' timestamp='1355622275' post='65539']
Ever heard of LittleSnitch?
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When did Little Snitch for iOS come out? I must have missed that.
[quote]But in all honesty, again, all this boils down to a question of trust. [/quote]
Let's asume for a second you trust Agile Bits to not backdoor 1Password. Then it boils down to not trusting AES, or at least the Agile Bits implementation of it. Personally, I do especially combined with the privacy measures in place for iCloud and Dropbox.Flag 0 -
[quote name='khad' timestamp='1355621691' post='65537']
It would be incredibly foolish of us from a business perspective to put in a backdoor. The trust that we have from our customers is our livelihood. There are very sophisticated security researchers out there scrutinizing 1Password for security flaws. If they were to discover a backdoor, our reputation and business would come to an end.
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This was a reason why i decided to buy 1PW. If i want to use a password manager, it makes no sense to use the software of a company i don't trust.
But thats not the point. I don't trust Cloud solutions and i do not (and never) want to store my personal data in the web. The internet never forgets. If my data is securely encrypted today, who knows if the data can't be decrypted by somebody in ten or twenty years? BTW, i am very sure that many of the encrypted files in the cloud are encrypted by the user with a non-secore password. And if somebody gets a copy of the file, he has "all time of the world" to decrypt it by hacking the master password.Flag 0 -
[quote name='Carl' timestamp='1355607191' post='65495']
Wi-Fi sync isn't coming back and neither is the floppy drive. <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
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Great idea - i would even prefer syncing with a floppy drive over syncing with the cloud <img src='http://forum.agilebits.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />Flag 0 -
[quote name='dteare' timestamp='1355608989' post='65500']
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As for why we didn't we add Wi-Fi syncing in version 4, the main reason is it was very brittle. Just look at the [url="http://help.agilebits.com/1Password_touch/sync_problems.html"]Wi-Fi Sync Troubleshooting Guide[/url] to see just how many things could go wrong. And this list didn't cover everything as we still have customers with weird networks and have never been able to sync over Wi-Fi. It's very frustrating to the users and for us.
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As a software professional I would have looked to the guide, all of the support tickets and looked for a way to improve the WiFi experience. As a company AgileBits failed to query its users to see how the feature was used or weather it was needed or not. This is a massive failure.
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Then there's the user experience itself: even when Wi-Fi worked it was a huge PITA. You had to start 1Password on each device and trigger the sync. If you added new accounts and forgot to sync (or remembered to sync one device but not the other), you'd be without your data.
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No, this was not a huge PITA. Yes I had to start the OS version, then start the mobile version (OS X and iOS in my case) and then it synced as long as I was on the same network (in our house we have 3 separate WiFis because signal issues and the old routers are easier to configure for new WiFi than bridges and signal boosters) but it was very easy to use in my case across several different iPhones and iPads and even computer changes.
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I never say never but for these reasons I'm pretty sure Wi-Fi syncing will not be added back into 1Password. If you cannot use Dropbox, hopefully you will be able to use iCloud in the new year when it's available on Mac. If you are unable to use iCloud and Dropbox and the iTunes File Sharing doesn't suit your needs, you will need to stick with version 3 until we find a solution that works for you.
We're always evaluating new sync options and if possible we hope to someday add a solution where you can sync without relying on a central server. Hopefully we can find a solution that meets everyone's needs.
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Again my feeling, based on what we are seeing in the forums, is AgileBits needs to listen to the people who pay for the software. Too many of us are being told to continue to use V3 for our mobile devices. Some of us have already paid our money and got nothing for it.
Do I use iCloud? Sure for some things like contacts and calendars and even non-secure notes. I don't trust it or Dropbox for my secure information nor do I intend to. There have been too many issues in the past about companies who say their servers cannot be breached that are breached. Companies saying they are healthy and posed for the future only to go bankrupt quickly leaving customers and users without their data. The only secure location for my data is my personal computer that I have direct access and control over.
As many have already said, iTunes syncing is not going to work. It is not a short term or long term solution to what has been taken away from the user base.
So back to v3 I go but in going back to v3 I've learned a $$$ lesson and will now have to consider my options given the facts officially from AgileBits. It is bad situation and it will probably get worse as more users upgrade and learn the hard and painful lesson of the direction 1Password has decided to take. Companies that fail to respond to users tend to lose said customers. In this digital age where we blog, FB, tweet can AgbileBits really take the risk of alienating users?
It will take time to port or re-write code but to say WiFi is "never" coming back is the wrong message to send and yes, it has been sent. Not by you but by some of the other people from AgileBits and that is the reality we have to face.
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[quote]Do I use iCloud? Sure for some (non-secure) things... [/quote]
Then please notice this warning:
[size=4][color=#FF0000][b]The [u]default setting[/u] in 1Password 4 [u]is[/u] iCloud enabled![/b][/color][/size]
[color=#ff0000][size=4][u][b]If you use iCloud for non-secure stuff, 1Password 4 will save imported passwords (from 1Password 3 iOS) by default into iCloud!![/b][/u][/size][/color]
Maybe this helps to reduce ticket reports from stupid users, but this isn't a very good idea in secure apps. This is like a firewall that accepts anything by default. Does Agile Bits really have so many tickets that iCloud sync must be enabled for stupid users?
Maybe someone think I'm not trust Agile Bits. This is not true. I'm pretty sure they will do their best to have secure encryption. But it feels they want to have profit maximization to reduce their support team and enable non-secure settings in security apps. Or many users are really really stupid.
Ok, I'm trust Agile Bits on encryption side. But I'll never ever trust other harddiscs which I can't control for 100%. USA does have patriot acts (I'm not in the US) and we get news, that Microsoft deletes private pictures in Skydrive. And it's only the master password which must be hacked to get every single secure data.
[b]Enabled iCloud sync by default is the second big failure in 1Password 4 after deleting Wi-Fi sync.[/b]Flag 0 -
[quote name='bring wifi-sync back' timestamp='1355656245' post='65572']
Then please notice this warning:
[size=4][color=#FF0000][b]The [u]default setting[/u] in 1Password 4 [u]is[/u] iCloud enabled![/b][/color][/size]
[color=#ff0000][size=4][u][b]If you use iCloud for non-secure stuff, 1Password 4 will save imported passwords (from 1Password 3 iOS) by default into iCloud!![/b][/u][/size][/color]
Maybe this helps to reduce ticket reports from stupid users, but this isn't a very good idea in secure apps. This is like a firewall that accepts anything by default. Does Agile Bits really have so many tickets that iCloud sync must be enabled for stupid users?
Maybe someone think I'm not trust Agile Bits. This is not true. I'm pretty sure they will do their best to have secure encryption. But it feels they want to have profit maximization to reduce their support team and enable non-secure settings in security apps. Or many users are really really stupid.
Ok, I'm trust Agile Bits on encryption side. But I'll never ever trust other harddiscs which I can't control for 100%. USA does have patriot acts (I'm not in the US) and we get news, that Microsoft deletes private pictures in Skydrive. And it's only the master password which must be hacked to get every single secure data.
[b]Enabled iCloud sync by default is the second big failure in 1Password 4 after deleting Wi-Fi sync.[/b]
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Yes, I see iCloud is enabled by default. That is why I am reverting to v3 and exploring all available options.
Now I trust Apple more than Dropbox so once OS X 1P supports iCloud I might just go ahead and use it. Until then...
Hopefully I am mis-reading your statement and you are not calling me a "stupid user."Flag 0 -
[quote name='dteare' timestamp='1355608989' post='65500']
I'm sorry Wi-Fi syncing never made it into 1Password 4 as I know there's some valid use cases at the moment where it is needed. [...] Hopefully we can find a solution that meets everyone's needs.
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It is not only the Wi-Fi sync that is missing. With Wi-Fi sync, I was able to only sync selected folders to my iPhone. Why should I sync data to my iPhone, that I don't need, when I'm on the way.
[b]The most effective data protection is data avoidance! This implies not to distribute data anywhere, if it is not absolutely necessary. Safety is most important, not convenience.[/b]
PS: As an emergency solution (at least for my setup) it would be helpful, to export only selected folders on the desktop directly in a new encrypted keystore, that I can copy then to the iPhone via iTunes.Flag 0
